Volume 12 Chapter 1 Part 6
「Kenshin, unlike you, I am just a human being. I am not Bishamonten or Fudo Myou-ou. Humans are the ones ruling in these turbulent times, not gods or Buddhas. Such superficial things cannot save the people. They lost their power to save people a long time ago. You pretend to be Bishamonten and continue to fight without any compensation to demonstrate your righteousness, and when you fight, you win.. You just continued to win. Even now, you still have not known the taste of defeat. But what did you gain from that? In the end, Kanto became Hojo Ujiyasu’s, and Shinano became mine. But what did you gain? Nothing. You just stopped being a human being and became more lonely than anyone else, didn’t you? 」
「Takeda Shingen, do you wish to deny everything that I am? 」
「No. That is not my intention. You are the one who’s denying everything
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